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Rita
05.09.2004, 19:59
Pop and Tribulation

They have opened a bottle of white wine, the time is 1:30 p.m., son True August (5) is playing at kindergarten.

"We're getting down to the wire. It's rather stressful to release an album. Would you like cranberry juice? 'Tropical,' maybe?"

Paul Waaktaar Savøy opens his refrigerator. And his villa in Vindern, in the western part of Oslo.

Wife Lauren begins to talk about why she still loves him.

"No one saw him. There was no one who understood Paul. Except for me. It was only us two. When we made this album, I saw the Paul who was difficult, the Paul people feared. But they have never understood how loving he is. I still love that part of Paul. His sense of humor. An unbelievable humor."

It is 20 years ago. It was a night in 1984. It was winter. London's most vulgar discotheque, the Hippodrome. Lauren thought he looked like a Martian. Pål stared at her, he had a mass of white hair and extremely made-up eyes.

Lauren wasn't interested in talking. But he just stuck out his hand. "Pål," he said.

He was 22. She, 19. The Jewish girl from Boston was in London to study art history, she was supposed to return home soon. Pål was deathly pale, from Manglerud, and was going to be a pop star.

"That's what everyone said at the time. 'Exceptional,' I thought to myself."

They became sweethearts. And then she left. Paul got a telephone bill for £2,000.

In the pocket of his leather pants he had £3.

"She talked so much that I got a headache. But for the songs I wrote, the separation was good," says Paul.

A couple of international hit songs came out of that.

"You must have loved me," says Lauren.

"Yes," says Paul.

She became "the disciple," and "the wife of Paul in a-ha." She became Yoko Ono.

"Yes, I was Yoko Ono. But not now. I understood the comparison then. But I have heard enough of that "Paul and his old lady" business. Now I deserve respect for what I have created."

Monday the 'family band' Savoy released its fifth album.

"Lauren has written the catchiest tune on the album. It irritates the pants off of me," smiles Paul. He is 43 and in love.

"This is our cabin," says Paul.

'The cabin' is a milti-million crown property. The family Savoy live in New York most of the time. They bought the house in Oslo in 1992 for 3.8 million crowns, today its value has multiplied several times over. It is here inside the kitchen that Lauren says:

"Great! I will tell you one thing . . ."

"What?"

"No, don't tell it," says Paul.

He shakes his head, nudges his wife slightly.

"Have you been through something difficult?"

"Yes," says Lauren.

"But that's life, sort of," says Paul. "Things happen. There are things you have to deal with."

"How dramatic was it?"

"Well . . . So, Lauren has had a tough time over the last few years."

"That's how it goes. It is a part of living. We don't want to go into it any more than that."

Something is left hanging in the air. Paul has begun to play guitar, he has gone inside himself.

"I'm sorry if we seem strange," says Lauren.

"That's OK."

"One thing for certain is that it's a kind of therapy to play in Savoy," says Lauren.

They are sitting on the floor, against the wall.

"There is a fine line. Between the pleasurable and the painful. They stand right up against one another," says Paul.

He pours more wine. Around his neck hangs a locket with a photo of his son, True August.

"What did you fall for, Lauren?"

"Good question. There was no one who saw the very kind, the very sexy Paul. Yes, and this intense, romantic side of him."

Paul says:

"I was head over heels. I wrote two to three letters a day. It was a kind of obsession."

But we are here to talk about the album, aren't we?" says Paul.

They are affected by having lived in Manhattan when the terror and the war began.

"Our son should have begun school this fall. But we are waiting until next year. We have to decide whether we will continue to live in New York. There are other places. We will see what kind of feedback we get from our son."

True August Waaktaar Savoy. 'Augie,' they call him. He turned five in August.

"Are you afraid?"

"Yes. There are people who say straight out that if Bush is re-elected, they'll move out. I've never heard anything like this from Americans before. Well, there will of course always be a certain number of crazies one is afraid of, but . . . " says Paul.

"It isn't safe to live in New York. We can't let Augie go outside. We don't turn our backs to him. Living in New York makes me paranoid. Nervous," says Lauren.

In Vinderen, Oslo, everyone is safe.

"I like the Norwegian vibe. It has taken away some of my craziness. I speak three decibles lower. And I think Norwegians are polite."

"You think so? I think Americans are polite," says Paul.

The opening track on Savoy's first album, Daylight's Wasting, was Paul's reckoning with Morten Harket. It was splashed over the entire front page of VG, showing a photo of the two of them torn down the middle.

"I was religiously loyal to a-ha. But we finished with all that business a long time ago," says Paul.

While Magne and Morten felt devastated at one point, Paul stood there there, steadfast.

"The others took the brunt. Morten always had the pressure on him. Magne was the skater, he outran a lot of it. I came through it safe and sound."

"Do you know how much you have earned?"

"I have the figures for how much I've lost. We were definitely taken advantage of."

Paul has earlier estimated that a-ha lost 70 million crowns (about 8,400 euros, £5,700, or $10,100) just on the sales of books and posters.

But he is a multi-millionaire, even so, today.

Think back to 1985. a-ha being driven around London in a limousine that has electrified door handles. When over-enthusiastic fans try to tear open the doors, they get a shock. a-ha is bigger than Madonna. Has eight singles in the top 10 in England. Take On Me is Number One in 22 countries, some say the boys earned 50 million crowns that year alone. Paul looked out of the window, he had sunglsses on, kept a straight face. While Morten Harket flashed his biceps, Paul sat there with his hair full of hair spray, silent, and looked as if he longed for home.

"Paul is so ambitious, the music has been like an illness for him. He is the most goal-oriented person I have ever met," Lauren often has said.

"When you want something with all your heart, you get it. It is a fantastic quality. I have gotten it from Paul. And I hope our boy has gotten it."

"Paul holds me together. You thought maybe it was the other way around. That I take care of the guy. It is the opposite. I need Paul. He takes care of me. I am mentally completely on the edge sometimes. A trembling soul."

She laughs.

"Don't say that," says Paul.

"Yes, but I'm not normal."

They sit on the floor.She has on a brown dress, and he, a brown shirt.

"How much has your shyness hampered you, Paul?"

"It took me a long time to learn to carry on a conversation. But it used to be worse. I have certainly gotten help from Lauren to open up."

Riots at airports, the screaming girls in Japan, the 94,000 at the concert in Rio, he always appeared unaffected.

"I have gone to the School of Hard Knocks," says Paul.

"I couldn't believe how uptight he was. My sisters said: 'What do you see in him? He doesn't say a word.'"

"Yes, but there wasn't room to talk," says Paul.

"Oh yes, there were plenty of opportunities."

"Yes, but you interrupted me."

..to be continued....

Rita
05.09.2004, 20:00
Teil 2...
They stroll about in the spacious garden. It will be autumn soon.

"What is the best song you have written, Paul?"

"There are so many," answers Lauren.

"The songs that are most Waaktaarized," says Paul.

"Waaktaarized"?

"Yes, there are a couple on every album. That are more 'me' than others. It is most often these people don't like."

He reels off some from Savoy. None from a-ha.

"There will be a new a-ha album next year. It's exciting. We have first-rate things on the way," says Paul.

"Good lord - 'a-ha'!" says Lauren.

"I have been blessed. I have learned so much by traveling around the world with a-ha. How many get to experience what I have during their lifetimes?"

She was a filmmaker. She was a-ha's most steadfast cheerleader. But she was more.

"Paul had been looking for a vocalist for the new band, I had said that he sang well himself."

"Lauren," says Paul. She was in the bathroom. He knocked on the door. "It is you who is the vocalist in my band."

She thought he was kidding.

"Lauren was like a gift," says Paul.

The music reviewers thought Lauren looked like she was at a Girl Scout camp.

"They were right. I was anxious. Braced myself with cognac. If I made a mistake on the guitar, Paul glared at me, with a look that could kill."

"It's my face, that's how I am," says Paul.

"But I am much better now," says Lauren. "I am still afraid, but I have a good time now. We learn from each other. Paul learns filming from me, and I learn music from him. We have never been bored. We are not the type that come home from work, eat dinner, turn on the TV, and open a beer. Our life is not like that."

"How is your life?"

"We get up, eat breakfast, and go into the studio."

"I have a plan. It used to work in 1985," says Paul about the photo session.

He picks up a pair of sunglasses.

"Maybe you should take them off?" says the photographer.

"No - why? Aren't they nice?"

"But it's difficult to see your face."

"Yes, but you don't need to see it," says Paul.

Lauren says that she soon has to go and pick up True August from kindergarten.

"The cool thing about Lauren is that something dramatic has to happen. Every fifth year, just about, she has to turn everything upside down. Move out, or go in a totally different direction. I come from Manglerud. When you buy a sofa, you have it for the rest of your life," says Paul.

"When you think about it," says Lauren, "I have had a strange life. I have been a fish thrown to the sharks. But I am proud. I am educated now. And don't call me Yoko Ono any more. I am Lauren."

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Jenn
05.09.2004, 20:01
Vielen Dank!!! :bussi: Vielleicht bekommen wir es ja doch noch online. Und auf die Bilder nächste Woche würde ich mich dann auch sehr freuen. :-)

Rita
05.09.2004, 20:02
Ich werde Ausschau halten ;-)

Jenn
05.09.2004, 20:04
Das Interview ist echt toll!!! :blumen:

Rita
05.09.2004, 20:05
Ja, finde ich auch :)

daay
05.09.2004, 20:09
Ich hab schon gewartet bis es hier auftaucht. :grin: :-P Konnte es selber nirgends finden. :hmm: Danke, Rita. :bussi:

Meggie
05.09.2004, 20:24
Vielen Dank, Rita (und Ingerid ;-))! Ist wirklich klasse!
Echt interessant zu lesen!



Aus a-ha-Fan-Sicht gefällt mir ja diese Aussage von Paul: :thatsit:
"There will be a new a-ha album next year. It's exciting. We have first-rate things on the way," says Paul. Laurens Antwort darauf allerdings nicht... :roll:

A-hadmin
05.09.2004, 20:26
Ich habe mal kleine Bilder auf meine Seite gepackt :grin:

daay
05.09.2004, 20:31
Ich habe mal kleine Bilder auf meine Seite gepackt :grin:
Schön! :schmacht:

Rita
05.09.2004, 22:28
Per Zufall drüber gestolpert... woher wußtest du davon, daay?

A-hadmin
05.09.2004, 22:41
stand doch schon letzte Woche auf meiner Seite als Ankündigung

Jenn
06.09.2004, 10:39
stand doch schon letzte Woche auf meiner Seite als Ankündigung
Ach DAS war das!! Fein! :-)

witchie
06.09.2004, 16:43
Wirklich schön zu lesen. :-) Danke Rita (und Ingrid)! :bussi:

Rita
06.09.2004, 18:20
stand doch schon letzte Woche auf meiner Seite als Ankündigung Habt bitte Nachsicht mit mir, wenn ich "hier" immer so reingestolpert komme.
Eigentlich habe ich ja mit Savoy nichts am Hut, deswegen bin ich immer ein wenig uninformiert. :roll:
Aber wenn ihr mit englischen Übersetzungen zeitweise zufrieden seid, dann werde ich versuchen, immer up-to-date zu sein ;)

Jenn
17.09.2004, 15:18
Auch wenn ich jetzt hier voll geschlagen werde... Aber ich muß es mal los werden... Ich finde Lauren manchmal ganz schön anmaßend... :roll:

Hannchen
17.09.2004, 15:41
Auch wenn ich jetzt hier voll geschlagen werde... Aber ich muß es mal los werden... Ich finde Lauren manchmal ganz schön anmaßend... :roll:

Wieso? Irgendwie hast Du ja recht.:pfeif:

Frauke
17.09.2004, 20:09
Schönes Interview.
Ich finde beide irgendwie auf ihre Weise etwas "strange"...sagen sie ja quasi selber. Ich glaube die haben sich echt gesucht und gefunden...finde ich total faszinierend. Zwei Künstlerseelen, die charakterlich aber sehr unterschiedlich zu sein scheinen. Das Leben teilen wollte ich mit denen nicht, aber ich finde so einen "Einblick ins private" mal äußerst interessant...gerade bei Pal!

Den Satz, dass er a-ha auch viel zu verdanken hat, fande ich mal äußerst positiv, denn mich nervt irgendwie, dass man das womit mein sein Vermögen verdient hat und den meisten Erfolg mit hatte immer irgendwie schlecht machen muss. Ich finde, DAS ist dann anmaßend.

Heidi Harket
17.09.2004, 21:08
...Klasse Interview! Danke Rita! Ich muss sagen, Lauren wird mir immer sympathischer :) Die beiden sind echt ein super Paar! :thatsit:

Heidi Harket
17.09.2004, 21:10
Auch wenn ich jetzt hier voll geschlagen werde... Aber ich muß es mal los werden... Ich finde Lauren manchmal ganz schön anmaßend... :roll:


Naja, aber Lauren sagt ja auch, das sie nicht gerade eine einfache Person ist. Da kommt manches dann vielleicht auch falsch rüber. Ich kenne das sehr gut... :roll:

Jenn
18.09.2004, 13:14
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Frauke
18.09.2004, 13:51
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:-?

Larissa
18.09.2004, 14:13
auch von mir ein :danke: :df:
ich hatte nämlich auch angefangen den artikel zu translaten nur mal so für mich...aber man findet dann doch nicht alles im wörterbuch!!!

Jenn
18.09.2004, 19:06
:-?
Nix nix. Ich hatte nur für mich beschlossen das Thema nicht weiter zu diskutieren. Weil es für mich ein Krampf geworden wäre. Nicht wegen Euch, sondern wegen meinen "unausgereiften" Gedanken. ;-) :-)